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SUV versus Transforming Truck

Welcome to our comparision page on a 2011 Chevrolet Avalanche versus a 2012 Dodge Durango.
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What happens when your tow vehicle ends up becoming the family carrier?

9/14/2011:
I'm getting a bit tired of being the family hauler and not doing much towing. I bought a 3500 Ram Dually for towing a car trailer and we aren't doing much towing lately. However, it's funny driving up to the kids school to pick up the them up in this massive beast of a truck. Puts to shame the minivan soccer moms.


11/23/2011:
We got a wild hair and went and drove a Tahoe, Silverado 1500 and then an Avalanche. Loved the ride on the Tahoe and the Silverado isn't bad. It drives like a truck, well duh shouldn't we expect that! The steering is better than the old trucks I've had in the past and current Silverado is much improved. However, the Avalanche drives like the Tahoe, which is more car like and it does have a bed. Hmmmm, best of both worlds?

The Avalanche is more refined than a Silverado. No offense I've owned 2 Silverado's and a S10 and I've felt the quality could have been better in the new Silverado. The dash remined me of the 1997 model. The Avalanche has center console with bucket seats instead of a bench. I didn't like the narrow opening to the 2nd row of seats in the crew cab Silverado. Seriously, you need a dainty foot to get it in there. If wearing work boots your going scraping dirt off on something. Maybe I'm just spoiled with the Mega Cab on the Dodge? The Avalanche seemed to have better egress than Silverado, which is odd considering it's the same cab and doors. I'm guessing on the crew cab it has a larger rear seat and that eats up opening.

It's got the locking side storage just like the new Ram's option. It had leather seats, but you have to step up to the LTZ to get them heated. The covered bed area can be converted to 8 ft worth of bed or the 5.3 ft of covered area. Option the 4WD and you have a great hunting truck.

We had been at the dealer for about 3 hours and dinner was calling our name. So we bid ado to our salesman and went off to eat and discuss.


11/26/2011:
Well, being a Dodge guy of late I wanted to go drive a new Durango. Ok, yes it's an SUV and all that, but I really liked the way it looked. Maybe I'm getting liberal in my maturity. I've always felt that what's called an SUV was for the most part a macho version of a minivan, so dads would not be ashamed to drive it. SUV (Sport = Athelitic, Utility = Versitile, Vehicle = Transportation) an SUV is 4WD and goes anywhere, does anything and anything else is a pavement crawling immitation of a tall station wagon. Jeeps, FJs, Land Rovers, or anything with a decent locking differential are true SUV's.

It seems though these days there are two types of SUV. One for adventure and one of life. One that takes you places and one that gets you through life with minimal fuss. I've got an adventure SUV, maybe I need one for life.

Now it seems I'm well rewarded for my curiousity. I would put the new Durango on a comfort level to that of a LTZ Tahoe. It's smaller with a tighter body than the Tahoe, as compared with a Olympic swimmer to a weight lifter. I drove the R/T, which suspension wise is more like a sports car. I dearly miss having a sports car, but I'm not to have my mid life crisis yet. It's firm suspension and reminds me of a BMW X5 and that's is what I believe Dodge wanted. It's every bit as good and 10K cheaper and less pretentious. It's got loads of power thanks to the 5.7L HEMI and handles sportier than any SUV or Truck I've driven recently. Very impressive.

Pricing though is where they vary. The Avalanche has leather and it's a Texas Edition of the truck. The Durango is an R/T with a full leather upgrade and navigation. The Avalanche starts at $42,242.00, with discount to $39,376.60 add in a $5000.00 rebate and comes out at $34376.60. The Durango is $39,305.00 with a discount to $36,995.00 add in a $1000.00 rebate, so we're at $35995.00.

(Side note about the dealer experience)
Now the strange thing is I went into Grapevine Dodge, before researching the pricing tonight and sales manager writes down $40,000.00 and I let them work it out to see if they can get me in it for roughly $525.00 a month. They inspect my trade, which is the 2008 Ram 3500 6.7L Laraime Mega Cab Dually and it's a no go. He doesn't put it to a hard figure, but suggests a payment of $649.00.

Now, I found out what they were offering as trade on the Ram, but before I go there, let me digress. I can go to Dodge's website with their payment calculator and at $38,325.00 which is close enough for this. 0 for a down payment and 0 for a trade inat a 3.34% rate and 72 months, which is what I've been working off of the payment is $596.00. Now this is all warned as an estimate through the Dodge's website, but seriously why was the dealer so high. I know they didn't spell out nothing and they were just throwing figures to get me hooked. One of the major things I found after the fact, was that they were only going to give me $22,000.00 for the trade in on my truck, which is $5K less than what is owned. Are you serious? I could sell it for $28K any day of the week. Ah, so disppointed by the sharks.

If they had called the truck a wash and we started at the $35,995.00 then we could have come in around $535.00 at month in payments and I would have jumped on that like a stripper on a $100.00 bill, as is they tried to take me on the trade in.

Anyway, I'm going to pursue things further. Maybe it's time for a "For Sale" sign on the big beasty. Definitly going to have to go back and drive an Avalanche again. Maybe tomorrow, so I can compare it to the Durango while fresh in my mind.

 


     

 

Baseline Comparsion Information
    2012 Dodge Durango 2011 Chevrolet Avalanche
Original Retail Price (MSRP): $39,305.00 $42,242.00
Compression ratio: 10.5:1 9.9:1
Bore & stroke 3.9 3.8
Engine:   5.7L HEMI V8 OHV 16-valve 5.3L V8 OHV 16-valve
Transmisson:   5-speed automatic w/OD transmission 6-speed automatic 6L80 Hydra-Matic
HP (BHP/RPM)   360hp @ 5150 rpm 326hp @ 5300 rpm
Torque ( Lbs-Ft/RPM)   390 lb ft @ 4250 RPM 348 lb ft @ 4400 RPM
HP to Weight Ratio   14.3 lb/hp 17.9 lb/hp
Front suspension:   Wishbone Wishbone
Rear suspension:   Multi-link Beam and Coils
Brakes:   ABS Ventilated Discs - Solid Discs ABS
Wheelbase:   119.8 inches 130.0 inches
Length:   199.8 inches 221.3 inches
Width:   75.8 inches 79.1 inches
Height:   70.9 inches 76.6 inches
Curb weight:   5132.4 lbs 5840.0 lbs
Rear Axle Ratio:   3.45 3.42
       
Front hiproom   79.5 inches 64.4 inches
Seats:   7 people 5 people
Front Head Room:   39.9 inches 41.1 inches
Front shoulder room   58.5 inches 65.3 inches
Front Leg Room:   40.3 inches 41.3 inches
Rear Head Room:   39.8 inches 40.0 inches
Rear hiproom   56.0 inches 62.3 inches
Rear shoulder room   58.3 inches 65.2 inches
Rear Leg Room:   38.6 inches 39.1 inches
OE Wheels/Tires:   265/50 R20 275/55 R20
Payload/Towing Capacity   1340 lbs / 7400 lbs 1326 lbs / 8100 lbs
       
Fuel Capacity, gals   24.6 31.0
Fuel MPG   14/20 mpg 15/21 mpg
0-60 (sec.)   7.3 8.6
1/4 mile (sec-mph):   15.5 16.4
Braking (mph/ft)   117 ft 60 to 0 146 ft 60 to 0
Top Speed (mph)   113 mph 125 mph
What's Cool!   Eco reminder on throttle position, (4) 12 volt, 2nd seat 110 plug, power telescoping and tilting steering wheel, widgets galor, full head rests on 2nd row seats, power gate, reclining rear seats, nimble and sporty. (2) 12 volt, transforming bed that can allow 8 ft of area, (2) locking storage bins on bed sides, Tahoe looks, good towing capacity, five-star crash rating, a weekend go some where jack of all trades.
What sucks!   If your overweight then it's not comfortable seating, easy to speed in, it's a sporty mini van. Entry to the rear seats, average steering, 2nd row head rests are small and do not extend, lacks telescoping steering wheel, it's still a truck just more civilized.
Options:  

R/T Package: fog lamps, paint match grill and lower lip, HID head lights, 506 watt Alpine stereo, 30 GB hard drive, remote start, power lift gate, Uconnect, and passive entry.
Trailer towing: trailer hitch; Class IV receiver hitch; Automatic rear suspension levelling; 7 and 4 pin wiring harness; Heavy duty engine cooling system; Rear suspension with air springs.
Leather Interior Group: Leather upholstery; Rear seats: Heated driver seat with six 12-way power, memorized height, power lumbar and memorized tilt, Auto-dimming rear view mirror, Electric foldable mirrors; Tilt/ telescoping steering wheel, Smart card/smart key.

Heavy Duty Trailering Package: Heavy duty engine cooling system, 3.420:1 axle ratio, Auxiliary transmission cooler.
Texas Edition: Auto-dimming rear view mirror, Electric foldable mirrors, Chrome exterior door handles, Chrome grille, Texas Edition badge, Available only in Texas, Front fog lights; Includes: [K5L] Heavy Duty Trailering Package And [RCS] 20" Polished Aluminum Wheels And [G80] Locking Rear Differential.
Built in Trailer Brake Controller

 

 

 


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